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Last post 03-26-2012, 12:44 AM by andysmith. 25 replies.
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  •  10-17-2006, 6:51 PM 276 in reply to 81

    Re: Have you crashed?

    Yup, I've had my crash!  I would like to think I wouldn't have any more, but honestly, I'm not going to fool myself.  One month after I got my V-Star and half way through the Basic Riders Course I got the wake up call.  Now, keep in mind, I had been riding for a total of one month in my life.

    So, whose fault was it?  Mine.  Ok, so I had some help from the tourist who stopped abruptly in front of me.  But I'm honest in that I didn't have the experience to handle a quick stop.  Bike came over on my leg, which for some reason was headed for the ground.  Flipped me off the bike, rolled once, and landed on my butt.  All I remember is watching my "brand new" bike slide down the road throwing sparks and thinking "oh ***".  Hubby bought me that bike when he got promoted and here I've wrecked it.

    Bike survived.... less than $50 damage.  I spent 12 days in the hospital and now have 8" of titanium and 14 screws in my leg.  Didn't walk for nearly 5 months and didn't ride for about 6.  But I got back on.  I've learned a lot from that experience.  I don't follow too close and I watch people really closely.  I find myself constantly thinking "if they do X, I am going to do Y".  I will be taking riders coures every couple years to make sure my skills stay sharp.


    Only a biker knows why a dog hangs his head out the window.
  •  10-18-2006, 6:12 AM 278 in reply to 276

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    At least none of you had to "lay 'er down".  Smile That's another myth perpetuated by an older generation of rider.   I have a list of amusing quotes about riding and one of them says " you can never hit something too slow", so trying to stop is, imo, better than giving up and hitting.   Analyzing what happened and what can be improved is the important thing we. as riders, must do, to keep improving our skills.

     Rando

  •  10-19-2006, 6:16 AM 294 in reply to 278

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    Sometimes you have no choice but to "lay er down"... espically whey your back end is passing your front end...

    NEVER a first choice, but an absolute last resort! 


    Doing my part to save a Bikers life!
    www.SaveABiker.com
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  •  10-19-2006, 7:05 AM 301 in reply to 294

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    You're correct, when the back is passing the front, you probably have no choice and something has already gone terribly wrong....... : )

     I just don't think anyone should make that choice as a means of dealing with an impending accident.  Not having been in every crash ever recorded, I can't say for sure that it isn't a proper rider response though.   That sounds inflammatory, but is not meant that way at all.

     Rando

  •  10-22-2006, 7:26 PM 323 in reply to 275

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    I've had four that I consider crashes in the last 30 years. Two before taking training, and two after. First one was in the early 80's. Unfamiliar bike, blind curve, hidden driveway, Old man in a pick-up backed out in front of me. Had I been on my bike I probably have avoided the crash. Lessons learned? Be much more cautious on unfamiliar bikes. (I have to ride them all the time because I'm a Motorcycle Mechanic)  Don't outrun your line of sight.

    Second one was on a Chopper. I was very familiar with this one. Group ride, Clear day, dry concrete interstate, no traffic, 70mph. One minute I'm cruising on two wheels, the next I'm cruising on two butt cheeks. Passed my uncle, and slid over 300ft. Only one pencil sized road rash on right knee. While not a mechanical failure, the cause was mechanical. Road debris got between the chain, and cog. We never found the debris, but after a complete teardown, it was the only explaination.

    After training in the early 90's. First one was on straight one lane blacktop, 25mph, cold, dark, wet. Low spot, receeding water deposited even layer of mud about three inches deep where I hit it. Didn't see it, (I was looking) and the front wheel was sucked to the left. Did several 360's on my side. Never left the bike. No damage to me or the bike except mud everywhere, including inside my cloths. I do believe the only way I could have avoided this one would have been to ride elsewhere. The last one was two lane Blacktop, 1:30 AM or 0-dark:30, late October five years ago. Cleared a corner, 45mph, 20 yards later still doing 45, I see an Orange flash out of the corner of my eye. DEER!!! No time! Clinched bars, braced for impact! BIG BANG! Still on two wheels! Parked bike on roadside, went back to look. Deer crippled in ditch. No gun, no knife, had to leave the road-kill cause I had nothing to finish it off with. Lost a lot of meat that night. None of it mine. Rode home, went to bed. Next morning rode to Post Office, and noticed the front end was a little crooked. Fork tubes bent just a smidge. Had to replace them, and fiberglass fender that was cracked in a thousand places. The only thing I can credit my survival in this one was I was on a very heavy bike.

    Sometimes, things happen. You can be ready for most of them. I don't ride much at night anymore, especially during the rutt. It's been five years since that last crash. I have learned to be aware of my surroundings, and avoid situations that could keep that from happening. I do miss night riding, but it ain't worth it anymore.  But that's OK, I still ride 20,000 + every year still. It's all about risk management. I still ride hard, but I'm a lot more careful about where, and when.


    "DUCK" WV
  •  10-22-2006, 7:35 PM 324 in reply to 278

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    At least none of you had to "lay 'er down".

    Never could figure that one out. The quickest way to scrub off speed is with the tires in contact with the road. Metal slides much faster than rubber. In 30 + years I've never seen a situation that waranted layin her down, even as a last resort, except maybe to go under a jack knifed trailer to avoid decapitation. Most everyone I know that subscribes to this measure either walks with a limp, or has a lot of metal attached to bones with lots of screws.  


    "DUCK" WV
  •  10-23-2006, 10:37 AM 331 in reply to 324

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    Raked out chopper, no front brake, drum rear brake. Rear locked up and came around. It was either lean away to lay her before me, or flip her over on me... Still flipped over me, but that was the better choice at the time.

    Doing my part to save a Bikers life!
    www.SaveABiker.com
  •  10-25-2006, 12:24 PM 336 in reply to 81

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    I live in NH so I am acclimated to cool weather.  This summer I was on a long distance trip and hit the heat wave in CO.  It was over 100 for days.  I could not stay cool enough and hydrated.  I new I couldn't take anymore heat so I got off the highway and looked for a place to park.  Well I didn't find it fast enough, I went down with a heat stroke.  Because I was going slow I only got a bruised arm and hand.  I was wearing a helmet.  Its amazing how riding all day long, day after day sucks the moisture right out of you.  I headed into NM riding at night after that and anyone who rides in the southwest knows what the deer situation at night is but I knew I wouldn't survive another 100 degree day.  By the time I got to Dallas, TX I had another heat stoke, (at least I was not on the bike at the time) this one almost killed me.  So especially those of us from the north country need to be very careful with heat and hydration.  I will travel south again on my bike but not in July.  There's no better way to see our beautiful country than on a bike.

    Maggie


    Adventure is the spice of life.
  •  11-03-2006, 8:58 AM 409 in reply to 324

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    DUCK:

    At least none of you had to "lay 'er down".

    Never could figure that one out.

    Very true. Laying a bike down IS a crash. Then you and the bike likely slide into the car making your second crash. I tell my MSF students that if sliding were the best way to brush off speed then tires would be made of plastic or chrome.

  •  11-07-2006, 7:06 AM 416 in reply to 409

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    Squid Killer:
    . I tell my MSF students that if sliding were the best way to brush off speed then tires would be made of plastic or chrome.

    Nice.  If you don't mind, I may have to borrow that line from you.


    Chris Goldapple
    Human Factors Moderator
    ImplementNAMS.org
  •  03-26-2012, 12:44 AM 760 in reply to 416

    Re: Have you crashed?

    Go for it, it is nice when we think of proper protection, learning process never ends.

     

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